thought i'd throw my 2 cents in:
just in case it needs to be said: the following is my personal experience with the cyro, not an objective-reality thing. ymmv
i tried really hard to like my cyro, but ended up abandoning it because (in no particular order):
- it drags. i tried all the things. different mousing surfaces, different wrist angles, etc. i eventually even replaced the skates, and it still felt like lit took too much force to move the thing
- the deck is too tall. the cradle where the hand rests is something like an inch above the mousing surface. that doesn't sound like a lot, but it puts the wrist at a weird angle and gets uncomfortable pretty quickly. getting the bottom edge of the hand closer to the mousing surface would put the wrist in a more neutral position. also, it would probably help with the dragging problem because the the angle of force when moving the mouse would be flatter
- the body of the mouse isn't adjustable enough; i'm sure the existing level of adjustability works for a lot of folks, but i would need to be able to twist the button module outward by a good 30 degrees for it to be comfortable
- the strap is not adjustable. i found it to be too short and abandoned it early on
- the wheel is difficult to reach
- it is difficult to push the buttons without actually moving the mouse pointer at least a little bit (and possibly a lot, depending on what button i'm going for). an arrangement more like the cyborg would be easier to control because:
- the actuation force on the cyborg's paddles is significantly less than what is required for the cyro
- the cyborg's paddles are just easier to operate -- it's hard to explain this one, but it feels like maybe it has to do with cyborg using levers instead of push-it-straight-down buttons; the motion feels more natural to me
looking at my cyro, another thought that occurs to me is that its basic shape would work really well as a thumb trackball
i hope this feedback is useful. i do not begrudge the fact that the cyro didn't work for me. i genuinely believe that it has potential, and that people buying gen 1 is what leads to there being a gen 2. i'm definitely looking forward to seeing the next one
I agree with most of what you posted, especially the wheel.
On the adjustability of the body, the biggest issue I have is that it's hard set and only adjustable rotationally, that is, you can move the palm rest left or right parallel to the desk surface only. You can't adjust axial tilt front to back (lowering the point where the wrist sits, or raising it) to change the angle with which you grip it. You also can't adjust axial tilt so that the mouse surface itself is more vertical or horizontal. For me, it would be most useful to adjust tilt front to back, so that my wrist was lower to the desk.
I will note, however, that the height at which the mouse currently sits and is gripped is equivalent to most vertical mice on the market, and in the past when using a vertical mouse, the most simple solution I've found for it is a mouse wrist wrest that glides with the mouse hand and fills that extra inch of space. Super easy.
Now, the biggest thing I'm going to disagree with in general is the strap. Not disagreeing it's not adjustable, but more disagreeing with the strap being a thing.
One of the key design elements of every vertical mouse is having a solid surface that the thumb can grip onto in a sort of pincer type grasp, which effectively stabilizes the mouse and locks it into the hand in case you need to pick it up to adjust location on the desk or what have you.
I don't regularly use the thumb joysticks on the mouse as I have no need for them, so in my case, the quick fix solution to the problem was to simply grind a flat on the housing of the thumb stick, and then glue a spare joystick top hat piece onto it after figuring the right spot for my thumb to land on when gripping the mouse. Once that was done, the strap was no longer necessary for me.
What would also be more useful, instead of the strap, would be for the plastic arch that wraps the back of the hand to come up higher and wrap around the hand, but with plenty of clearance and opening at the top to easily move your hand off the mouse and back on as needed, but with a secure guard that keeps the hand in place with the mouse as well. Ideally, this would be adjustable on a ball-type pivot and padded so you can set how tiightly it presses the back of the hand, etc.
Back on the topic of the strap: If you use this mouse with the strap, there's a fairly easy way to make it adjustable if you're handy and have some time:
Before you begin, you'll need a razor blade, some tweezers, super glue, super glue remover/acetone/nail polish remover, and a set of relatively small but powerful magnets (ideally they should be strong enough not to come loose if you just move your hand around, but should be weak enough that you don't have to get creative to get them apart.)
1. Affix the strap to the top velcro pad near the thumb. This is going to stay there.
2. Remove the coarse velcro patch that is glued onto the body of the mouse near the pinky, This may require something like nail polish remover, etc. in small amounts to free it from the glue. Alternatively, if you don't want to risk damaging the physical mouse, simply use a razor blade and remove the plastic hook fibers from the velcro pad so you have a smooth surface.
3. using super glue or hot glue, affix one of the magnets to the soft velcro pad on the strap that affixes near the pinky. Before you affix it, make sure to try it in different positions on the strap so you can set a consistent position for the first/loosest adjustment position. Once you've got a good spot chosen on the strap, affix the magnet to it.
4. On the body of the mouse, place a magnet near the edge of the mouse "cup" that gives you the loosest fit that you want. Make sure that the magnet is oriented to attract the magnet you put on the strap, rather than repel it before you glue it on. Once you've got the location set, attach the magnet.
5. Repeat step 4 to place magnets in intervals towards the base of the mouse so that it will draw the strap tighter depending on which spot you attach the strap to.
You now have a fully adjustable strap that won't wear out and stop adhering, unlike velcro that will stop gripping after so many times of hooking it/unhooking it.
If you want it to be more "pretty"/less obtrusive, then get some fabric wire loom tape (it's black, kinda like electrical tape, but used for automotive electrical repairs). It adheres well, it's a nice fabric surface, and doesn't leave behind the oily/greasy slime that regular electrical tape does. Use a strip of that to cover over your magnets.
As far as the magnet that affixes to the strap itself, gluing it with hot glue or super glue is the quick and dirty way to do it, but it's kinda ugly, and the super glue can bleed through the material and leave a hard spot that's weird. A better solution to that, if you are handy with a sewing machine or know someone who is, the easier/better way to do it would be to remove the soft velcro pad from the strap, place the magnet where you want it on the strap, and then use some decently heavy duty nylon or similar fabric sewn over it and around the magnet several times with heavy duty thread to effectively attach it in a pocket on the strap. A small piece of black suede or similar would also work.
As far as my back-of-hand guard idea to use instead of the strap, I think I'm going to break out the kydex and make an adjustable guard that I can fit to the body of the mouse. Kydex is a great way to do this because i can heat it and shape it however I want, and it's very durable.
