Suggestions for new Cyborg 2 owners & Those thinking of buying a Cyborg 2

xCQ

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Hey hey, I've had my Azeron 10 days and I have some things to say, and some suggestions to give

First and foremost, if you're thinking of buying an Azeron Cyborg 2, you should read my entire post to decide for yourself if you want to make the time investment to use the device.

=-=I recommend you go for the Azeron Cyborg 2, and not the Compact 2 for one simple reason-- I have no reason. Do what you want at the end of the day, I just really like how lifting a finger up like half an inch lets me hit an extra button that I won't ever misclick vs having to lift my finger up and over a bunch of other buttons to hit 1 button on a tower. But, if you think the compact makes more sense, go for it. (I might end up buying a compact 2 just for funsies to support Azeron as a company tbh.)
=-=I recommend you either buy the stand from Azeron, or you buy the 3d printed alternative from Etsy. The Azeron Stand is not as customizable as the Cyborg 2, which is a huge letdown considering the price of the stand, but the one on Etsy is practically fully modular.
=-=Do yourself a favor and get the Elite Joysticks to pair with the Hall Effect joystick on the Cyborg 2. The xbox-style thumbsticks fit xbox kontrol freeks, and the domed thumbstick *can* fit a PS4/PS5 Kontrol Freek, but you're gonna have to tuck the rubber into the kontrol freek claws. I recommend putting a grippy universal slip-over, or kontrol freek on the thumbsticks.
=-=If you need replacements parts for the thumbsticks themselves, "ExtremeRate Xbox Elite V2 Thumbsticks" on Amazon are compatible. I have 2 seperate models, for Elite v1 and Elite v2, Elite V1 does *NOT* fit. The joysticks used on the Cyborg 2 Elite Thumbsticks are the Elite v2 Thumbsticks.
=-=I can not stress this enough. This is a device that you are buying for comfort. This device is expensive. I recommend you make the device in the builder, exactly how you want it. If you can afford $350ish USD + Shipping, then go forth and deck it out. Make it your own. Personalize it. This thing may be 3D printed, but it is definitely built to last. If one of the Premade ones fit your bill for exactly what you want, or only a minor change (like, you want all black, but green buttons. The premade offers too much green for you.) you can adjust this in the builder and see if the extra price is still within your budget. If not, you have to ask yourself, "Is me saving $30-$50 USD worth it just to get the premade model?" If the answer is yes, then get the premade. If the answer is "I don't know, but if I'm spending this much money I want it how I want it" consider using Klarna to finance it, and break up the payment across 2 or 3 Paychecks, and just get the one you want. I kind of regret getting the green Premade one, because the Galaxy purple in review videos looks pretty cool. I think my Compact 2 purchase will be *exactly* how I want it, then in a few months, maybe I'll buy another Cyborg 2 just to have one specifically how I want it, and I'll give my green one to my friend. Who knows.

=======Go to the Azeron Youtube Channel. Watch their guides on how to set up the Azeron. How to use the Software. Go watch other Youtube Review videos, see how they adjust it. DO NOT SUPER GLUE YOUR JOINTS TOGETHER................................................ unless you have it perfect for comfort and you haven't adjusted the joints in 6+months, then feel free to super glue the joints if you want to. But like, unless you *need* to, please don't. This is a expensive 'af device.=======

-==-The Azeron is made for comfort, 100%. The thing that puts people off, is how intimidating it looks to use. So, how do you get around that? Convince yourself that the cyborg 2 is a gimmick device for a new game, for example, say you haven't played Doom the Dark Ages yet, make using the Azeron Cyborg 2 the primary input throughout your entire playthrough of a new game. This way, you don't need to think about muscle memory. You can just focus on learning the new controls. I don't see alot of people suggesting this for some reason, but it 100% helped me get adjusted to it in about 3 days. (The game I ended up playing was Expedition 33.) Throughout the playthrough of your desired game, make micro-adjustments to your Cybrog 2 as you're playing the game. Try to get it perfect for your hand throughout your playthrough. Expect it to take 10+ hours in total of just adjusting it with little tweaks here and there over the course of 1 week. (10 hours sounds like alot, but 7 days you'll hit around 10 hours.) Please, please, please avoid MMORPG's like WoW/SWTOR or any game that has 90 skill slots on-screen, for atleast 2 weeks.
-=--=-If you play alot of MMORPG's like WoW or SWTOR, consider making your keybinds to be as close to what they are in WoW on a regular keyboard, like "1 to "=", F1 to F12, and numpad. Try to change all keybindings in-game to somewhat match your MMO games. While you should avoid actively playing an MMO as the first experience with the Cyborg 2 in my opinion, that doesn't mean you can't launch it to set up the buttons/keybinds how you want them for an MMO first. Before you commit to going this route though, read the 4th point regarding the Azeron Software and Keybinds.

-==-After you successfully learn the controls in 1 game, and after you've spent ~10 hours in total perfecting the art of angling, moving, sliding, and adjusting your Cyborg 2 throughout your first playthrough of your new game, now you want to launch an Online PVE game, like POE2 for ARPG, Destiny 2 for FPS MMORPG, or Lords of the Fallen for RPG. (These are just examples, any online PVE game that you can go at your own pace at, that you have extensive hours in, play that game.) Keep your keybindings the same from your new game as any button prompts that appear on screen will be easier for you to hit now that you're familar to them. You will still catch yourself thinking about which key to press. My recommendation is to adjust the in-game bindings to fit the Azeron, and do *NOT* adjust the bindings per game in the Azeron Software *UNLESS THE GAME DOES NOT OFFER REBINDING OF KEYS*. There is one exception to this which I'll get to later, but it is important that the first few weeks (in my opinion) that you keep the keybindings the same, and you play games with alot of different keybinds. You want every game to feel familiar, so when a letter pops up on the screen, you already built up somewhat of a muscle memory for where that letter is on the Cyborg 2.

-==-Stay in WASD mode 24/7. In many games I've tested it in many a games with the analog/360 option, it unfortunately switches between xbox prompts and keyboard prompts in many a games. There are a few games where this feature will work correctly and won't swap between button prompts like it's trying to give you a seisure, but, just avoid the headache is my advice. The default should be WASD movement on the joystick, which is 8 way direction movement. It still makes sense for alot of games, and feels very similar to regular joysticks. Just remember, using Analog/360 as an option should only be there as a "Hey cool this is available in this game" sort of thing. There's no issues turning it on once per game just to see if it works, but don't expect it to be your default.
 

xCQ

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-==-Now we get into the Azeron Software/circling back to "There is one exception to this which I'll get to later" and "Please, please, please avoid MMORPG's like WoW/SWTOR or any game that has 90 skill slots on-screen, for atleast 2 weeks." well, this is the one exception for keybinds. If you play alot of MMORPG's like SWTOR, WoW, or other tab-targeting semi-turn based with 90 skills on screen at any given time games, well, I recommend going in and setting up each one of them little skill boxes in-game with key-binds matching your familiarity with similar-genre games you were already building up muscle memory on. Remember, you're learning how to use a new input device. This means the best way to learn is to avoid familiarity on a regular keyboard, and associate the prompts with the new prompts you set up. This is my recommendation. you can use this opportunity to learn about Layering (in either scenario) in order to access all the buttons you need. I'll get into Layering on my next point, but the easiest way to think of layering, is you're holding down CTRL to access special characters, but instead of special characters their your extra skill bars not part of your main bar.
-=--=-I'll give you a better representation, instead of "1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 0, -, =" being your main skill bar, say it's random because the PVE game you played was D2, so you have "Q, E, V, F, C, L, N, B, T, R, G, Z, X, I, Tab, Esc, M, `(~), Space, Ctrl, Alt, Win, Shift, O, P" (These are mine) binded to your Azeron, so you go into WoW and you unbind "1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 0, -, =" to be ""Q, E, V, F, C, L, N, B, T, R, G, Z,", now copy that profile in the "Software" section, you can not currently us Layering with the "On Board" Profile. (I don't know why, but it seems like something that should've been fixed with a Firmware update awhile ago.) and select one of the unbound keys as the Layering Key in the Software Section. Also make sure you hit "ACTIVATE" in the middle-left next to the profile name in the "SOFTWARE" section. There should be at minimum 2 identical profiles in the "SOFTWARE" section at this point. In both profiles, you want to select LAYERING and select the 2nd SOFTWARE profile, and select "Toggle On Hold" (I think, someone might need to correct me), this way, now, when you hold down that LAYERING button while the SOFTWARE PROFILE is activated, you can now select combo-keybinds. So, for example, say your side skillbars on the left side of your screen are keybound to F1-F12, well in-game make them "CTRL+Q, CTRL+E, CTRL+V, CTRL+F, CTRL+C, CTRL+L, CTRL+N, CTRL+B, CTRL+T, CTRL+R, CTRL+G, CTRL+Z" now, you know that you need to set the keybinds in the SOFTWARE SECOND PROFILE ON THE CYBORG 2 to match the new key-binds, under "KEYBOARD" and set up "CTRL+Q, CTRL+E, CTRL+V, CTRL+F, CTRL+C, CTRL+L, CTRL+N, CTRL+B, CTRL+T, CTRL+R, CTRL+G, CTRL+Z". This way, you've built up muiscle memory on where "Q, E, V, F, C, L, N, B, T, R, G, Z," are. Now you just now to hold down the Layering button and access the keys ""Q, E, V, F, C, L, N, B, T, R, G, Z," because you know that the layering button is adding "CTRL". This method, is entirely based upon you learning the new keybinds you set up so that button prompts are something you never have to think about after you get practice in.
-=--=-=--=-Now, this is where the "exception" part comes in, because I totally get it, if you've played a game for 10+ years and you're just super familiar with "1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 0, -, =", then please, make those bindings your every-game bindings, and relearn every game you play with those MMO bindings. That means, START OFF WITH "1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 0, -, =" as your main button prompts IN YOUR FIRST NEW GAME WITH THE AZERON. MAKE THIS DECISION BEFORE YOU START USING THE CYBORG 2. Remember, YOU NEED to be familar with WHAT THE BINDINGS YOU SET ARE. I think it will be easier in the long-run to set up entirely new bindings and start learning everything from scratch and get used to the new bindings, in subpoint 2 of this section. However, if you believe that using "1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 0, -, =" will make it easier for you to learn the Azeron across new games, go for it. The only reason you should have *any* Software Profiles, is if you're using Layering. I have a massive bone to pick with people who keep saying "just make a new profile for every game." No. Don't do that. You need to build up muscle memory for QTE prompts. You're a gamer. You bought this for gaming. Do not hinder yourself by constantly changing the keys around. One game Flashlight might be G, but another game it's Q, and in a different game it's T, and on a random game it's 1. Well, set it as T or 1 for every game, and commit that being "T" or "1", and it's a permanent place on your Cyborg. What about games that don't use "1" as a flashlight? Make it something similar? Make it a healing potion? Make it a weapon swap? It's not like flashlights exist in every game, and you 100% use "1" for different things in a variety of different games anyway. FPS is usually primary weapon, RPG's it's usually heal, MMO's it's usually your first skill slot. My point is, whatever you commit to, you need to get to the point where you see "1" on screen, and you can hit "1" without thinking about it (Or T, or whatever.)

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My closing thoughts/TLDR

==Azeron Products are expensive, make it how you want it, consider using Klarna to finance. Don't compromise on what you want cosmetically, it is worth the extra money to know you got exactly what you wanted.

==Don't skimp out on Accessories, get the elite thumbsticks. Get the stand. Get the grip pads if you want. I don't care. Get the accessories anyway.

==While playing the new game you haven't played before, make phsyical micro-adjustments to the Cyborg to get it as perfect for your fingers as possible.

==While still playing the new game you haven't played before, and you set the keybinds as UNIVERSAL and you are now deciding if you main MMOs ("1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 0, -, =" + whatever other *individual* keyboard buttons you want to add, obviously) or random keys to force yourself to associate this as a "different" device than a keyboard ("Q, E, V, F, C, L, N, B, T, R, G, Z, X, I, Tab, Esc, M, `(~), Space, Ctrl, Alt, Win, Shift, O, P" as an example), commit to these as permanent keybinds, and get familiar with where each individual button prompt is. Once you commit to a button layout, DO NOT CHANGE IT AFTER DAY 3. Spend the first 2 DAYS making sure you put every key where it's going to feel natural for you to hit in the new game you're playing. Specifically make your decision on Space bar, CTRL, and Shift before you even think about shifting around any of the other buttons. Try not to change any buttons after Day 3. By the 3rd day, you should be commiting to learning the current and final layout.

==Go into an online PVE game like POE2 or D2, change the in-game bindings to match what your Cyborg 2's profile is currently set at. Change some of your bindings around if some of the buttons feel a little too comfortable for what the ability does-- again, you're whole thing for the first few weeks is learning static-button placement. Expedition 33 will be a great game to learn button-placement because of the Quick time events (QTE), while it's not an online PVE game, an alternative would be a QTE-based game.

==Keep the joystick in WASD mode, and assume that will be default for every game. You are more than welcome to try out analog/360 option for dual-input, but if the game is constantly changing from xbox prompts to keyboard prompts, just set it in WASD. If the game is lagging while switching inputs (like in D2), just set it in WASD. Assume that WASD is the default for every game, for the joystick. It's 8 directional movement, which is pretty close to a regular joystick anyway.

==Watch Azeron's Youtube Direct Guides on the Azeron software, how to adjust the Cyborg physically, how to set up key binds, what options are available, and watch Reviews of the Cyborg 2 on Youtube. Make an informed decision. Do the research, understand what you're getting yourself into, and if it's something you're willing to learn, this is your SIGNN, go for it.

== GG's gamers. I hope everyone who bought a Cyborg 2, has bought one and is waiting on it, and someone who is on the fence of buying one, I hope this post helps you make a decision or you find it generally helpful. FOR THOSE WHO COME AFTER


Remember, I am currently only 10 days deep into this. I am sharing what my experience is like so far, and what I have found easy. I found alot of issues with reviews online regarding setting up per-game profiles. I 100% disagree with that method as you will never learn the where individual buttons are, and you will constantly have to think about where something is, because what was "1" on Destiny 2, is set as "~" for a different game. Wild dude. Idk why so many reviews I saw suggested changing the bindings per game in the Azeron software. Absolutely wild to me and I can not get over it and will vehemently disavow anyone who suggests that.
 
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-==-Now we get into the Azeron Software/circling back to "There is one exception to this which I'll get to later" and "Please, please, please avoid MMORPG's like WoW/SWTOR or any game that has 90 skill slots on-screen, for atleast 2 weeks." well, this is the one exception for keybinds. If you play alot of MMORPG's like SWTOR, WoW, or other tab-targeting semi-turn based with 90 skills on screen at any given time games, well, I recommend going in and setting up each one of them little skill boxes in-game with key-binds matching your familiarity with similar-genre games you were already building up muscle memory on. Remember, you're learning how to use a new input device. This means the best way to learn is to avoid familiarity on a regular keyboard, and associate the prompts with the new prompts you set up. This is my recommendation. you can use this opportunity to learn about Layering (in either scenario) in order to access all the buttons you need. I'll get into Layering on my next point, but the easiest way to think of layering, is you're holding down CTRL to access special characters, but instead of special characters their your extra skill bars not part of your main bar.
-=--=-I'll give you a better representation, instead of "1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 0, -, =" being your main skill bar, say it's random because the PVE game you played was D2, so you have "Q, E, V, F, C, L, N, B, T, R, G, Z, X, I, Tab, Esc, M, `(~), Space, Ctrl, Alt, Win, Shift, O, P" (These are mine) binded to your Azeron, so you go into WoW and you unbind "1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 0, -, =" to be ""Q, E, V, F, C, L, N, B, T, R, G, Z,", now copy that profile in the "Software" section, you can not currently us Layering with the "On Board" Profile. (I don't know why, but it seems like something that should've been fixed with a Firmware update awhile ago.) and select one of the unbound keys as the Layering Key in the Software Section. Also make sure you hit "ACTIVATE" in the middle-left next to the profile name in the "SOFTWARE" section. There should be at minimum 2 identical profiles in the "SOFTWARE" section at this point. In both profiles, you want to select LAYERING and select the 2nd SOFTWARE profile, and select "Toggle On Hold" (I think, someone might need to correct me), this way, now, when you hold down that LAYERING button while the SOFTWARE PROFILE is activated, you can now select combo-keybinds. So, for example, say your side skillbars on the left side of your screen are keybound to F1-F12, well in-game make them "CTRL+Q, CTRL+E, CTRL+V, CTRL+F, CTRL+C, CTRL+L, CTRL+N, CTRL+B, CTRL+T, CTRL+R, CTRL+G, CTRL+Z" now, you know that you need to set the keybinds in the SOFTWARE SECOND PROFILE ON THE CYBORG 2 to match the new key-binds, under "KEYBOARD" and set up "CTRL+Q, CTRL+E, CTRL+V, CTRL+F, CTRL+C, CTRL+L, CTRL+N, CTRL+B, CTRL+T, CTRL+R, CTRL+G, CTRL+Z". This way, you've built up muiscle memory on where "Q, E, V, F, C, L, N, B, T, R, G, Z," are. Now you just now to hold down the Layering button and access the keys ""Q, E, V, F, C, L, N, B, T, R, G, Z," because you know that the layering button is adding "CTRL". This method, is entirely based upon you learning the new keybinds you set up so that button prompts are something you never have to think about after you get practice in.
-=--=-=--=-Now, this is where the "exception" part comes in, because I totally get it, if you've played a game for 10+ years and you're just super familiar with "1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 0, -, =", then please, make those bindings your every-game bindings, and relearn every game you play with those MMO bindings. That means, START OFF WITH "1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 0, -, =" as your main button prompts IN YOUR FIRST NEW GAME WITH THE AZERON. MAKE THIS DECISION BEFORE YOU START USING THE CYBORG 2. Remember, YOU NEED to be familar with WHAT THE BINDINGS YOU SET ARE. I think it will be easier in the long-run to set up entirely new bindings and start learning everything from scratch and get used to the new bindings, in subpoint 2 of this section. However, if you believe that using "1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 0, -, =" will make it easier for you to learn the Azeron across new games, go for it. The only reason you should have *any* Software Profiles, is if you're using Layering. I have a massive bone to pick with people who keep saying "just make a new profile for every game." No. Don't do that. You need to build up muscle memory for QTE prompts. You're a gamer. You bought this for gaming. Do not hinder yourself by constantly changing the keys around. One game Flashlight might be G, but another game it's Q, and in a different game it's T, and on a random game it's 1. Well, set it as T or 1 for every game, and commit that being "T" or "1", and it's a permanent place on your Cyborg. What about games that don't use "1" as a flashlight? Make it something similar? Make it a healing potion? Make it a weapon swap? It's not like flashlights exist in every game, and you 100% use "1" for different things in a variety of different games anyway. FPS is usually primary weapon, RPG's it's usually heal, MMO's it's usually your first skill slot. My point is, whatever you commit to, you need to get to the point where you see "1" on screen, and you can hit "1" without thinking about it (Or T, or whatever.)

-==-

My closing thoughts/TLDR

==Azeron Products are expensive, make it how you want it, consider using Klarna to finance. Don't compromise on what you want cosmetically, it is worth the extra money to know you got exactly what you wanted.

==Don't skimp out on Accessories, get the elite thumbsticks. Get the stand. Get the grip pads if you want. I don't care. Get the accessories anyway.

==While playing the new game you haven't played before, make phsyical micro-adjustments to the Cyborg to get it as perfect for your fingers as possible.

==While still playing the new game you haven't played before, and you set the keybinds as UNIVERSAL and you are now deciding if you main MMOs ("1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 0, -, =" + whatever other *individual* keyboard buttons you want to add, obviously) or random keys to force yourself to associate this as a "different" device than a keyboard ("Q, E, V, F, C, L, N, B, T, R, G, Z, X, I, Tab, Esc, M, `(~), Space, Ctrl, Alt, Win, Shift, O, P" as an example), commit to these as permanent keybinds, and get familiar with where each individual button prompt is. Once you commit to a button layout, DO NOT CHANGE IT AFTER DAY 3. Spend the first 2 DAYS making sure you put every key where it's going to feel natural for you to hit in the new game you're playing. Specifically make your decision on Space bar, CTRL, and Shift before you even think about shifting around any of the other buttons. Try not to change any buttons after Day 3. By the 3rd day, you should be commiting to learning the current and final layout.

==Go into an online PVE game like POE2 or D2, change the in-game bindings to match what your Cyborg 2's profile is currently set at. Change some of your bindings around if some of the buttons feel a little too comfortable for what the ability does-- again, you're whole thing for the first few weeks is learning static-button placement. Expedition 33 will be a great game to learn button-placement because of the Quick time events (QTE), while it's not an online PVE game, an alternative would be a QTE-based game.

==Keep the joystick in WASD mode, and assume that will be default for every game. You are more than welcome to try out analog/360 option for dual-input, but if the game is constantly changing from xbox prompts to keyboard prompts, just set it in WASD. If the game is lagging while switching inputs (like in D2), just set it in WASD. Assume that WASD is the default for every game, for the joystick. It's 8 directional movement, which is pretty close to a regular joystick anyway.

==Watch Azeron's Youtube Direct Guides on the Azeron software, how to adjust the Cyborg physically, how to set up key binds, what options are available, and watch Reviews of the Cyborg 2 on Youtube. Make an informed decision. Do the research, understand what you're getting yourself into, and if it's something you're willing to learn, this is your SIGNN, go for it.

== GG's gamers. I hope everyone who bought a Cyborg 2, has bought one and is waiting on it, and someone who is on the fence of buying one, I hope this post helps you make a decision or you find it generally helpful. FOR THOSE WHO COME AFTER blocky blast


Remember, I am currently only 10 days deep into this. I am sharing what my experience is like so far, and what I have found easy. I found alot of issues with reviews online regarding setting up per-game profiles. I 100% disagree with that method as you will never learn the where individual buttons are, and you will constantly have to think about where something is, because what was "1" on Destiny 2, is set as "~" for a different game. Wild dude. Idk why so many reviews I saw suggested changing the bindings per game in the Azeron software. Absolutely wild to me and I can not get over it and will vehemently disavow anyone who suggests that.
Thanks you so much! I like in the post
 
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