This is not the most elegant solution, but it was cheap and easy. I can think of many 'better' ways to accomplish this with a 3d printer, but have no such device. Photos were included to assist the mechanically illiterate. First the fix, then the rant.
Disclaimer: Mine is the left hand version.
Materials list:
I ordered a 5 meter roll of Toocki Cable Organizer (was $1 at the time) for another project, and it arrived a few days before I busted my beautiful Cyro (wish I'd thought to use it sooner). It is ~3/8" (~10mm) wide and very thin.
The fix:
For a medium Cyro, start with two ~8.5" (~22cm) strips. This is plenty to go from one velcro hook site to the other, with lots of extra to make for a nice extension on the pinky side. I do not know what length is needed for a small Cyro, nor an appropriate length for massive hands. If in doubt, make it longer than you think will be needed. The material is stupid cheap, and anything 'too long' can be trimmed to size when you're done. The shorter bits pictured are just for holding the longer bits together at the ends. The hand rest must be removed to ease this surgery. The little silver square is a threaded insert for the hand rest. They fall out easily, so pay attention.
Reroute your wires, so when things go back together they fit nicely.
Attach the strips to the thumb side velcro hook pad and pull it around the bottom of the hand rest. If you have no velcro hook pad on the thumb side, just run the strips over the area the velcro would be and attach the strap as shown in the next step before attaching the base.
Make sure the strips are not stacked, so only one layer of strip gets clamped between hand rest and base. Reattach the hand rest to the base with the screws very loose. Before tightening any screws, attach the strap to the thumb side velcro hook site. While tightening the pivot screw, pull the strips on the pinky side to remove slack on the thumb side. You want the thumb side strips to be fairly tight, as in the image of the wires above -- no flopping or sagging. If you have no velcro pad on the thumb side, make sure to pull the velcro of the strap to just below the edge. Slack will matter less.
If you still have a pinky side velcro hook square:
Adjust the hand rest and tighten that screw. Pull the pinky side strips fairly tight and attach them to the pinky side velcro hook square. They should be pulled straight -- no sagging or flopping. At this point, trim the strips if you want or leave them as an extension. You're done! Yay!
If you no longer have a pinky side velcro hook square, or otherwise want a more secure fix:
Clamp another 4-5" (10-12 cm) strip at the adjustment screw and angle it back to hold the other strips in place. (ended up changing the placement a bit -- my additional strip is centered against the adjustment screw. Sorry for no pic update, but my hand rest is broken and I'm not out to make it worse.)
From there, attach the strap on the pinky side and adjust it so you can slide your hand in like a glove. When your hand is in, the strips may not all be tight. On mine, the single strip is tight and the other two have a little slack. Who cares, as long as it is holding.
Fin.
Rant / back story:
My Cyro arrived on Dec 3. Within a week the strap started having the same issue as many people were describing in another thread (of similar title). Specifically: the pinky side velcro hook square came loose. So, attempted a fix and went with the strap attached more loosely. Initially, mashing the velcro pad back onto the glue and working it around a bit to reattach would make it hold almost like new for a little over a week. Unfortunately, the repair interval kept shortening at an annoying alarming rate. On February 19, after ~10 weeks of dealing with temporary fixes, I gave up. Accelerated glue failure was not just a product of exposure to dirt, dust, and fingers, as glue was also being cleanly pulled from the fabric backing of the velcro hook square. By the time I gave up, glue was clinging to less than 50% of the backing surface. After playing with it for maybe one minute, there is now fairly clean fabric on about 70% of the backing. With some tape and about 5 minutes, I could have it looking like it never had any glue at all.
The main issue is constant shear force on the tacky glue of the velcro hook squares while the strap has tension, and heat coming through from a hand may speed its inevitable failure. The strap may be long enough to make this less of an issue for wafer thin micro hands, but normal and larger hands will have normal and larger problems. The strap does not bend well where the velcro is attached, so it must fit fairly squarely on the thumb side hook pad. I do not have giant hands, yet the shear force was enough to repeatedly dislodge the pinky side velcro hook pad with the strap hooked only 1/4-1/3 onto it. While working on the fix, noticed that the thumb side velcro pad was starting to detach as well, seemingly in part due to the contour at its mount point.
During the final repair attempt, the hand rest broke right across the middle of the glue. OOPS. It had gotten to the 'must be reattached every 15 mins or so' phase, so admittedly this was a more vigorous reattachment attempt. Was able to remove a lot of the glue before the hand rest bit completely snapped free (though it is still held on by the grip tape). I want to attempt a repair before bothering with a replacement. Clean ABS can be fused with acetone, but that horrible glue has become one with the hand rest. I don't know how to remove enough to ensure the bond site does not get contaminated.
Suggestions for ABS-safe solvents capable of removing the glue would be greatly appreciated. Hoping for nothing oily/lanolin based, as I fear the secondary cleanup could be more problematic than just leaving the glue. Alcohol has proven fairly useless.
Azeron:
The Cyro is a fantastic device. I love it! ....but that tacky glue is the absolute worst. It is not just the mustard and pickles on our chocolate cake, but also the dog hair and toenail sprinkles on our doughnut. Please, for the love of God, figure out a better way. Use a different glue, come up with a simple solution that uses no glue, or keep on with the same tacky glue but find a way to make it less awful (like something attached at the base to counter shear force on the glue -- see above). Also, please consider that many of your customers have normal and larger sized hands. Costing mere pennies per unit, the cheapest way to accommodate larger hands with the current strap is by simply including a 2.5-3.5" (6-9 cm) piece of material (such as a wide cable management strap) for use as a velcro extension. Oh, and any chance we could get a listing in the store for pre-cut Cyro grip tape, or maybe just a printable pattern?
Aight. It is done. Back to gaming.
Thank you!
(couple edits for clarification)
Disclaimer: Mine is the left hand version.
Materials list:
I ordered a 5 meter roll of Toocki Cable Organizer (was $1 at the time) for another project, and it arrived a few days before I busted my beautiful Cyro (wish I'd thought to use it sooner). It is ~3/8" (~10mm) wide and very thin.
The fix:
For a medium Cyro, start with two ~8.5" (~22cm) strips. This is plenty to go from one velcro hook site to the other, with lots of extra to make for a nice extension on the pinky side. I do not know what length is needed for a small Cyro, nor an appropriate length for massive hands. If in doubt, make it longer than you think will be needed. The material is stupid cheap, and anything 'too long' can be trimmed to size when you're done. The shorter bits pictured are just for holding the longer bits together at the ends. The hand rest must be removed to ease this surgery. The little silver square is a threaded insert for the hand rest. They fall out easily, so pay attention.
Reroute your wires, so when things go back together they fit nicely.
Attach the strips to the thumb side velcro hook pad and pull it around the bottom of the hand rest. If you have no velcro hook pad on the thumb side, just run the strips over the area the velcro would be and attach the strap as shown in the next step before attaching the base.
Make sure the strips are not stacked, so only one layer of strip gets clamped between hand rest and base. Reattach the hand rest to the base with the screws very loose. Before tightening any screws, attach the strap to the thumb side velcro hook site. While tightening the pivot screw, pull the strips on the pinky side to remove slack on the thumb side. You want the thumb side strips to be fairly tight, as in the image of the wires above -- no flopping or sagging. If you have no velcro pad on the thumb side, make sure to pull the velcro of the strap to just below the edge. Slack will matter less.
If you still have a pinky side velcro hook square:
Adjust the hand rest and tighten that screw. Pull the pinky side strips fairly tight and attach them to the pinky side velcro hook square. They should be pulled straight -- no sagging or flopping. At this point, trim the strips if you want or leave them as an extension. You're done! Yay!
If you no longer have a pinky side velcro hook square, or otherwise want a more secure fix:
Clamp another 4-5" (10-12 cm) strip at the adjustment screw and angle it back to hold the other strips in place. (ended up changing the placement a bit -- my additional strip is centered against the adjustment screw. Sorry for no pic update, but my hand rest is broken and I'm not out to make it worse.)
From there, attach the strap on the pinky side and adjust it so you can slide your hand in like a glove. When your hand is in, the strips may not all be tight. On mine, the single strip is tight and the other two have a little slack. Who cares, as long as it is holding.
Fin.
Rant / back story:
My Cyro arrived on Dec 3. Within a week the strap started having the same issue as many people were describing in another thread (of similar title). Specifically: the pinky side velcro hook square came loose. So, attempted a fix and went with the strap attached more loosely. Initially, mashing the velcro pad back onto the glue and working it around a bit to reattach would make it hold almost like new for a little over a week. Unfortunately, the repair interval kept shortening at an annoying alarming rate. On February 19, after ~10 weeks of dealing with temporary fixes, I gave up. Accelerated glue failure was not just a product of exposure to dirt, dust, and fingers, as glue was also being cleanly pulled from the fabric backing of the velcro hook square. By the time I gave up, glue was clinging to less than 50% of the backing surface. After playing with it for maybe one minute, there is now fairly clean fabric on about 70% of the backing. With some tape and about 5 minutes, I could have it looking like it never had any glue at all.
The main issue is constant shear force on the tacky glue of the velcro hook squares while the strap has tension, and heat coming through from a hand may speed its inevitable failure. The strap may be long enough to make this less of an issue for wafer thin micro hands, but normal and larger hands will have normal and larger problems. The strap does not bend well where the velcro is attached, so it must fit fairly squarely on the thumb side hook pad. I do not have giant hands, yet the shear force was enough to repeatedly dislodge the pinky side velcro hook pad with the strap hooked only 1/4-1/3 onto it. While working on the fix, noticed that the thumb side velcro pad was starting to detach as well, seemingly in part due to the contour at its mount point.
During the final repair attempt, the hand rest broke right across the middle of the glue. OOPS. It had gotten to the 'must be reattached every 15 mins or so' phase, so admittedly this was a more vigorous reattachment attempt. Was able to remove a lot of the glue before the hand rest bit completely snapped free (though it is still held on by the grip tape). I want to attempt a repair before bothering with a replacement. Clean ABS can be fused with acetone, but that horrible glue has become one with the hand rest. I don't know how to remove enough to ensure the bond site does not get contaminated.
Suggestions for ABS-safe solvents capable of removing the glue would be greatly appreciated. Hoping for nothing oily/lanolin based, as I fear the secondary cleanup could be more problematic than just leaving the glue. Alcohol has proven fairly useless.
Azeron:
The Cyro is a fantastic device. I love it! ....but that tacky glue is the absolute worst. It is not just the mustard and pickles on our chocolate cake, but also the dog hair and toenail sprinkles on our doughnut. Please, for the love of God, figure out a better way. Use a different glue, come up with a simple solution that uses no glue, or keep on with the same tacky glue but find a way to make it less awful (like something attached at the base to counter shear force on the glue -- see above). Also, please consider that many of your customers have normal and larger sized hands. Costing mere pennies per unit, the cheapest way to accommodate larger hands with the current strap is by simply including a 2.5-3.5" (6-9 cm) piece of material (such as a wide cable management strap) for use as a velcro extension. Oh, and any chance we could get a listing in the store for pre-cut Cyro grip tape, or maybe just a printable pattern?
Aight. It is done. Back to gaming.
Thank you!
(couple edits for clarification)
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